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Post by Dmitri Khvostov on Aug 16, 2015 16:16:57 GMT
;n ; I just want to run over my worries of how excluding members in wild threads from wild events is basically counter productive to the intended purpose. Not that I don't understand the very obvious reason people knee jerk into believing this is the best course of action. But I see a slight problem. Though perhaps it is still the best course of action; I just want to run this by everyone.
Most people could agree that 9/10 times the members not sitting in a wild thread are more than likely veteran members. People who've collected usually at least over 4~5 pokemon by now, and basically have decided they don't know what else they want, or they're comfortable with what they've gotten so far and decide to sit on an open wild.
The newer members, on the other hand, have gotten thrust into an environment where they're behind and they struggle to catch up. The first thing they even think to do is sign up for a wild and possibly even just catch anything they happen to see.
If Wild Events are currently held to the standard that, one cannot join unless they're not in a wild thread, they're inadvertently catering to the more adapted, veteran members than to the newer members on our site. The new ones are/(seem?) less likely to actually fill the event with this stipulation present.
I can understand if this was the pre-established status quo, but if it seriously was, I think it could use some careful consideration. I think this is an honest problem and deserves a little attention.
;n ; I'm suggesting we consider adapting this rule for future novice members, since it seems like a legitimate concern to me.
Post by Syndra Mawdrey on Aug 16, 2015 16:45:26 GMT
It depends. Some "veteran members" are using wild threads to grind levels or catch things they would want if they arent satisfied with their current team. That aside if the wild events are low enough in level then members that have higher levels wouldn't really bother or at least should allow newer members to participate in these events. Also those that have wild threads active are mostly those that are frequently on the site or as you said newer people. I think the wild event helps those that aren't as active still be able to round out their team without having to focus on doing as many wilds as some of the more active members.
I for one don't see much of a problem with it. If someone wanted to they could end their current wild encounter in their wild thread at any point even if the wild pokemon in question had not fainted or been caught. It's just a matter of measuring importance.
Also punishing veteran members never really ends well. It just impedes their desire to do anything really and I'd like to say that most of the suggestions I've seen lately are in reference to helping new people catch up which is fine at the cost of making veteran members suffer which is not so nice
I also hope this isn't towards the most recent wild event thread I've noticed.
Post by Dmitri Khvostov on Aug 16, 2015 16:56:27 GMT
;n; What's done is done, I can only express my feelings toward the future.
I wouldn't say it's ever gotten into the hands of someone who wasn't proactive, though. It requires precise timing to even find one of these. People with low activity just don't end up finding these too often. They're just not around often enough to catch them.
I suppose you've got some points. :c
Edit: But it doesn't necessarily seem like they intended these for veteran members to begin with. So why would this be a problem for veterans, to adapt the current status quo?
The way I see it, I don't see how members have been excluded from the wild event. I think you are talking about the most recent one that Zerker made so I'm just going to use that as an example. The wild event that was put up stated that not more than 3 people could post in it and had less than 3 rares. It's understandable because it was supposed to be for people who didn't have as many rares and for the people who didn't have some to finally have a chance. I think Zerker's intentions were to get some of the newer members to post in it when they had the chance. It didn't work out but what's done is done. There will be other events in the future I guess.
I understand that maybe people didn't know but rules are rules. The mods mentioned numerous times in the cbox that you can only be in one catching thread at a time across all accounts. The wild event counts as a catching thread "event" or not. I understand that maybe people didn't catch up on that but hey it's knowledge for next time. I've noticed a running trend with these current suggestions where we are trying to cater to the new members and I understand. I love that we are considering newer members in the future and helping them come onto calamity. But the thing is there will ALWAYS be new members and from what I've seen we end up punishing the old members trying to cater to the new. Like Lexus said, we can't keep changing things that end up punishing everyone in the long run because we are "trying" to cater to new members. The suggestions I've heard and the thing we have done have just kind of been detrimental.
So the thing with adding I guess you are suggesting more than one catching thread? Maybe a normal wild and an event one? The way I see is that it's not helping new members. Everyone is excited to get pokemon especially rares but the way I see it (and what I've always seen) is that it's whoever posts the fastest. New members could have just joined and have not yet had a catching thread but before they can post, some of the veteran members have already posted in it. So that means the veteran members have two catching threads which they don't need.
Now for the suggestion since we are focusing on helping new members, I say we just limit who can post in the wild event. The mods already tried but it seemed it didn't work out that well. So we just put restrictions on them so it gives new members a chance to post when they can rather than old ones jumping in. And if they are feeling generous, they make one that caters to the veterans. There is always problems with this and of course some people are going to be unhappy because they weren't fast enough to get to the thread but hey...
Post by Syndra Mawdrey on Aug 16, 2015 17:25:50 GMT
If this is towards the current wild event
That one seemed it was for less active yet veteran members, not new members. How would new members get all the way to slateport without spending money on the train? Then fight high level pokemon in the 20+?
So honestly what is the current status quo that you're talking about Felon? Understandably you admit that these wild events don't fall into the hands of those that aren't proactive however not everyone can be as active. Some people have jobs where they cannot post as fast if they're viewing from work. School is also coming up soon as well. I don't want those people to feel punished for having to attend to these things. Events are supposed to be fun for everyone not just the people that are active and in turn proactive.
I'd hope that veteran members would not post in those in the first place or at least give other people a chance to post in it first. I think that's why they put the rare pokemon limit thing on there in the first place.
First, I don't really understand this veteran/new member split. The only members I would consider new are the ones who have only been here for less than a month. Those members wouldn't have had access to a single event yet, and thus wouldn't have gotten any chance to get rares/level/rare items/etc. Yes, members who have been here longer would have benefitted from previous events and such that would grant them certain benefits. But, from that perspective, most members who've at least had the chance to participate in an event would fall under that category (e.g. getting 3 free levels is a perk that no one who signed up after the Gala, got a chance to receive). I think we should stop looking at members as veterans/new members and just make uniformed rules.
Second, and more pertaining to the topic, I don't recall reading any rules that are specific to event wilds. Anyone could make the honest mistake of treating an event wild as something outside of the regular wild rules, particularly because they have the signifier "event" in the name. I think, since this is currently the only chance (outside of the 1/3 event roll...) to get a Pokemon from the rare list, there should be limits on how many times a member/account can participate. Perhaps, 1/month or something. That way, you control who gets a chance to participate; you allow "new members" to make there way to the event wilds (if it is one like the most recent one); and, you ensure that the most active members don't all jump on them as soon as they pop up.
I agree with what Lexus says about member having IRL stuff to deal with... It would be unfair to punish them for not being online 24/7. Likewise, it would be unfair for those members who already have +3 rares to get more. There should definitely be more concrete rules about event wilds, rather than them being posted in the note section once they pop up.
If there are event wild rules listed, my apologies. I didn't see them.
Just a side note: Since wild and event wild threads are confirmed to both fall under the 1 wild rule, there should be more concrete rules about wild mod/member posting. I liked that the wild event thread made it explicit that posting would happen every 48 hours. I think the same rule should hold for all wild threads. If 48 hours have passed and the mod hasn't posted, the member should be allowed to request a new mod for their thread (perhaps with increased priority). Likewise, if 48 hours have passed, and a member hasn't posted, the mod should be allowed to drop the thread so as to not keep other members waiting. If a member has IRL stuff to deal with, and they post that in the Front Desk, then it should be understood that they lose their wild mod and have to request a new mod once they come back (with no increased priority).
yeah i just thought i should comment again and say we should get rid of this new member/veteran mentality. i don't really understand it either and the site hasn't even been opened for long for people to consider themselves veterans? like saint said, the only thing veteran i see is that some people were here earlier to get events while some were not. or some people got more rares than others? i dunno the thing is that's always going to be a thing....so yeah...just another comment i forgot to mention but saint did perfectly.
Post by kristmar mortensen on Aug 16, 2015 19:08:01 GMT
I agree that we really have to do away with this veteran/newbie mentality.
Some members signed up first and have had a chance to participate in every event so far, are those the so-called veterans you're talking about? Or just the ones that've signed up before X person has? I don't know why it feels like some people would rather hinder them seeing as these so-called 'veterans' shouldn't be pushed to a side when it has been these members who've helped the site progress and stay active. I'm not saying that they should be rewarded either or given special treatment but they certainly shouldn't be left out just because they have more rares or more pokémon than certain members. They've been here more time. It's to be expected. It's basic logic. It happens everywhere.
Yes, the site is trying to make newer members feel included though and feel as though they have a chance to catch up, given the changes to the rare candy system, future rare limits on certain rare wild encounters, eventual events for solely lesser leveled members, etc, etc... we're really doing all we can to help newer members feel included since a couple of members so insistently brought it up. There's only so much we can do though because there are always new members. Again, we can't hinder the members who've been around longer just in the hopes that this neverending influx of members - who sometimes don't stick around for too long because a few are flakey - catches up.
Alright. Wild events.
You're allowed one wild request per person, that much has been established. There's some confusion though regarding whether or not someone who already has a request in process can jump into an encounter. The official answer is yes, you can. You can have a wild thread and jump into a wild encounter because, like jumping into other people's wild threads, you aren't the requester. As long as you're not the thread requester, you're good to go. Of course, this was never explicitly covered in the rules, so that was where this confusion has stemmed from. We apologize for that much though.
This doesn't touch this subject too much but since it was brought up.... about the 48hr reply period for both mods and members. It's good in theory but, the same way that members have RL things, mods do as well. Sometimes mods can't tend to a thread for three days simply because they have things on their plate. Plus, I'd advise against pressuring the mods because, remember, any and all mods applied for their position voluntarily. There is no reward for being a mod at all. There are no hidden perks stashed away in the staff board. You just get a bunch of threads and a bunch more waiting for you but you do get the thanks from members if they're nice. That's about it though.
all mods applied for their position voluntarily. There is no reward for being a mod at all. There are no hidden perks stashed away in the staff board. You just get a bunch of threads and a bunch more waiting for you but you do get the thanks from members if they're nice. That's about it though.
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